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Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006, 11:00 pm

I just saw an ad for Computeach, some kind of open university style computer training thing and they're claiming that a newbie computer game programmer would earn £30,000 (about 45,000 euro/dollar). Speaking as someone who tried for quite some time to get into that industry before I realised it would chew up my soul and crap it out (oddly enough this happened as I was finally offered a job testing/developing games) I have to wonder what magical leprechaun gold outfit they found offering that particular figure.

Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006 10:44 pm (UTC)

I goggle and giggle at that ad every time I see it, sometimes I even shout at the TV about not selling your soul!

Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC)

"You could train to be a webmaster!!!" .. yeah, the 90s called, they want their bullshit back.
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Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC)

Really? I've been buying the wrong ones then.

Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006 10:59 pm (UTC)

Based on the ads in the back of the Edge, £30,000 is for someone with experience in a specific area, or even in some cases a senior developer position!

It's a Mental industry; in work we support some customers who start not long after us in the morning and at the end of the day we hand them over to our west coast office who support them until they head home. The guys we're supporting are working 9AM-11PM shifts. From time to time we get asked to do weekend support even.

Luckily games Middleware is interesting, but we don't get the joys of crunch :)

Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006 11:15 pm (UTC)

Yeah middlewear is about the only sector I'd have any interest in at all. I'm not passionate/mental enough to believe that working 12 hour shifts so the CEO of vivendi or EA can afford another gold plated yacht is rewarding in any sense of the word but getting to see all the games in a near finished state while working on something genuinely interesting sounds like fun.
Which, I guess is what I'm doing now, except it isn't Half Life Episode 2 so much as the interactive TV version of "The price is right" and listening to Joe fucking Pasquali half the livelong day.

Mon, Jun. 26th, 2006 11:16 pm (UTC)

Oh, and as to your first point - yeah I've seen even QA jobs offering that much cash but you're not going to be getting that out of the gates by any measure I've ever seen. 14K for the first five years or so seems more the norm, sadly. Way to attract the best and brightest.

Tue, Jun. 27th, 2006 07:49 am (UTC)
followthebird: Pay

Ouch! Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't 14k below minimum wage?

Tue, Jun. 27th, 2006 09:37 am (UTC)
mr_wombat: Re: Pay

Not in sterling I don't think - that'd come out as something like ... what? 22K euro?

Tue, Jun. 27th, 2006 11:13 pm (UTC)
followthebird: Re: Pay

So the same wage as a grade III clerical officer of librarian...