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Sat, Apr. 15th, 2006, 03:12 pm

In case I bump into any of you this weekend, it bears mentioning that I have a history of light physical and verbal violence towards proponents of patriotism, people who mention of 1916 and anyone who praises the notion of sacrificing your life for land, an idea or a political movement.
With this in mind, I shall be indoors most of the weekend with the TV on Kerrang, ordering takeout from american food companies that almost exclusively use immigrant labour and wiping my arse with the tricolour toilet paper.
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Sat, Apr. 15th, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)
mr_wombat

As Bill Hicks said, "Its a round world last time I checked". I can't see the world suffering if the concept of patriotism disappeared at midnight tonight.

Sat, Apr. 15th, 2006 04:35 pm (UTC)
gwennie

hee hee.
/me bumps into Glen singing a rousing ballad!

Sat, Apr. 15th, 2006 05:11 pm (UTC)
mr_wombat

Is it one of the ones about killing brits? They're great :)

Sat, Apr. 15th, 2006 06:05 pm (UTC)
gwennie

Aren't they just? ;-))
I used to be brainlessly patriotic, (thanks da.) it does seem rather silly now :/

Sun, Apr. 16th, 2006 02:38 am (UTC)
trjh

I can well understand. It's a bit complex to be patriotic here. Are you FF patriotic? Are you FG patriotic? Maybe SF? Not simple and straightforward and so obviously right, like in my home country! Yeah!

Sun, Apr. 16th, 2006 10:10 am (UTC)
gwennie

Heh, nothing so complex alas, just the 'nationalist' anti-Brit feeling that seemed to start around Paddy's day every year!

Sun, Apr. 16th, 2006 01:39 pm (UTC)
mr_wombat

Yeah, the country isn't polarised in the same way the US is at the moment (where it seems to be election season 24/7). The folks who care about such things don't tend to get pissy about which way you vote but will get downright stroppy about your attitude towards the glorious republican spirit.
Same in britain in my experience, political party affiliation matters a lot less than how many reasons you can list why britain is the greatest nation in the world.

I'm already starting to miss the days when republicanism was a dirty word.

Tue, Apr. 18th, 2006 11:03 am (UTC)
specky_ie

Same in britain in my experience, political party affiliation matters a lot less than how many reasons you can list why britain is the greatest nation in the world.

Mmm...no. I think you'll find most people int he UK are pissed off because it's blatantly obvious that Britain is MOST CERTAINLY NOT the greatest nation in the world. Politics is something to argue about in the pub, but I don't think I ever associated with or avoided someone simply because of their political views (unless they were BNP people...of whom there are actually very few...by ratio).

In my experience, if you ignore the royal family (which represent a rather strange anomoly around which a sizeable plume of patriotism and severe oddness exists) people in the UK only get patriotic about sport. They get this burst of national pride to exactly the same degree as the Irish do whenever they play at some international game or other, but the difference is that in the UK everybody wishes the team would win something whilst remaining reasonably ambivolent towards the fortunes of other teams, whereas in Ireland everybody wishes the English teams would lose every match, regardless of what the sport is or who they're playing against.

On a slightly more serious issue, I am rather annoyed that the government sees fit to waste an innordinate quantity of money marching it's security forces up and down the street and keeping order amongst the populace whilst they watch the security forces march up and down the street, but they couldn't be arsed deploying those same forces onto the roads of our country to stop the idiots who continue to drive around with impunity, murdering innocent people and inflicting wholesale trauma.

But then I guess that just shows you how screwed up my value system must be. Perhaps in 100 years time the government of the day will be holding marches for the early twenty-first century drivers who "died so that we could escape the oppression of imperialistic speed limits and road traffic laws"...

Mon, Apr. 17th, 2006 10:04 pm (UTC)
formulaic666

It's good to be english sometimes, when the only patriotism you come across stems from football or our ridiculous currency. I can't imagine living in a fiercly patriotic place, I think I would leave.