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Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006, 09:38 am

I remember a time when we could tell the difference between a "gifted" child and an asshole child. It was easy - the gifted one read books and tended to get bored in class and the asshole one threw dogs through windows.
Then the parents of asshole children decided that their precious bundles weren't assholes (for this would reflect poorly upon their amazing parenting skills). No. The asshole kids were "gifted" too.
Then ADD was discovered and the parents of gifted kids and asshole kids decided to call it a day, declare all their kids to be assholes and blame it on a chemical imbalance (for this was out of their hands and did not reflect on their amazing parenting skills). I personally figure this happened around the time that we, as a civilisation, decided that social and scientific progress were wonderful things that someone else could look after as we settled down into the comfy sofa of complete and utter moral, intellectual and social corruption.

Then, this morning [1], the notion of the Indigo Child arrived on our shores but mercifully, no one paid it any heed because some theories are too damned stupid for even the most useless parent to adopt. At least not until you can get anti-indigo medication or extracurricular indigo school activities to keep them out of the damned house for as long as possible.


[1] Yes, I know its been around for ages, but it hit the Metro daily this morning.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:01 am (UTC)
nightmares_fear: indigo

Wha?

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:10 am (UTC)
mr_wombat: Re: indigo

They're so named because their aura is apparantly Indigo, which until recently was very rare but now they're becoming increasingly common - a sign that we are approaching the age of aquarius (an era of unprecedented growth of humanity as a spiritual and artistic creature) and they will be the ones to usher in this age.

I'd dearly love to believe this was the case actually but unfortunately my bullshit detector is pinging like a mad thing
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Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:43 am (UTC)
nightmares_fear: Re: indigo

Ditto

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:06 am (UTC)
microgirl

Oh good God.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:41 am (UTC)
gwennie: Class :>

I love it.. I am gonna work on my aura-reading for the next month. A lot of my friends appear to be 'Indigo' hmm, yeees..

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 11:15 am (UTC)
mr_wombat: Re: Class :>

Personally I reckon I could usher in the age of aquarius by punching people in the throat.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:45 am (UTC)
brucius

"One thesis of The Indigo Children seems to be that many children diagnosed as having attention deficit disorder (ADD) or ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) represent "a new kind of evolution of humanity." These children don't need drugs like Ritalin, but special care and training"

I took that bit from the blurb about a book, it describes the occurance as a biproduct of the gradual evolution of the Human race, so in a way, if 'indigo' children are slightly more evolved in a way, they would be the gateway to the future...

"Extremely bright, precocious children with an amazing memory and a strong desire to live instinctively, these children of the next millennium are sensitive, gifted souls with an evolved consciousness who have come here to help change the vibrations of our lives and create one land, one globe and one species. They are our bridge to the future"

Well........ when it's put that way, I'd have to say it's a load of hoohoo.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 11:23 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

A load of hoo hoo that displays a singular lack of knowledge about how evolution works. Heck, maybe evolution CAN work at a spontaneous spiritual level but I'd lay money against it. It doesn't seem to occur to these people that maybe the *genuinely* good, gifted kids are just the product of good parenting (increasingly rare these days from the look of it). Or maybe they do but they know they'll never sell a book on that basis and even if they could, they'd sell about five copies unless they cast the net wide enough to catch the parents looking for an excuse for their crappy kids.
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Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 11:26 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

Its an *aura* man - you have to be special to see an aura (and definitely not an unimaginative hippie who lacks anything remarkable about themselves and has to make up a mystical justification for their egotism).


Please note: I'm not entirely discounting the existence of psychic abilities, in fact I firmly believe in them. I just discount people who make claims of possessing them.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC)
microgirl

That's completely contradictory. How can you believe in psychic abilities if you don't believe anyone possesses them?

Fri, Jan. 27th, 2006 01:18 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I don't believe anyone who *says* they possess them

Fri, Jan. 27th, 2006 11:49 am (UTC)
microgirl

I can understand not believing *everyone* who says they possess them, but if you believe in them, then you must believe that *some* people possess them, and what are they supposed to do, lie? Never say anything?

I'm not talking about the all-out New Agers who go on about Indigo Children, but those that pick up resonances from objects etc. And I know at least one person who can see auras (though she admits not very well, not as easily as another friend claims), took a lot of the pain away from a likely-broken toe I had and has some other, ill-defined abilities and senses, and she is the last person in the world who would make this shit up for attention and "specialness" reasons. She has said some stuff that from anyone else I would simply ridicule, but knowing her as I do I have to believe her.

Fri, Jan. 27th, 2006 03:04 pm (UTC)
mr_wombat

This one comes with a disclaimer - like yourself I'm not talking about the crushingly mediocre new agers who claim to be able to read auras (or body language as its better known) or perform spirital healing (power of suggestion/pop psychology). Of the dozens of studies done, if not hundreds, of "psychics" only a handful have even proven inconclusive, never mind coming close to *proving* the existence of these powers.
Almost every power can be written off as making a big deal of coincidence, the power of suggestion, the ability to read body language, social engineering or some other kind of trickery - be it intentional trickery or unintentional. I reckon a lot of "psychics" are honestly talented people, just not in the way they think and it's more empowering to believe you have paranormal abilities rather than an inherent skill at something mundane - or to reverse the notion, sometimes it seems more likely that you're psychic than to think you've somehow learned these somewhat difficult skills without training.

Hell, several times in the past I've picked up on the vibes of a place, been able to divine the location of an item or person and a couple of times I've predicted the death of certain individuals in my dreams - more worryingly, the people I actively loathed in the past have, for the most part, had horrible accidents (comas, lost/mangled limbs, fractured skulls and so on). Taken on face value, that puts me firmly on the psychic scale but I don't buy it, coincidence and the fact the Bertie Ahern still walks amongst us are strong evidences that I'm not.

Mon, Feb. 13th, 2006 02:07 pm (UTC)
mollydot

Yeah, I know I'm really late coming to the conversation. And I'm just being contrary here.


I don't believe anyone who says they're in the top 10% of drivers. Because a large amount of people do - 60% or something. I do, however, believe that some people are in the top 10% of drivers. Approxmately 10% of drivers, in fact :-)

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:50 am (UTC)
caturah

There's studies out there that suggest that ADD or ADHD is caused by an imblance of omega 3 and 6 oils (proper balance should be I think, somewhere between 1:3 and 1:6), but because of the amount of processed food eaten these days, it's closer to 1:20 in most children. Of course that could just be a scam study to sell more fish oils.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 11:29 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I'd be more inclined to point the blame at the insane amount of chemicals most people consume these days. Hell, we keep going at the rate we're at we'll be seeing some literally purple kids before long :)
Now my basis for this is flimsy, I just knew a load of kids when I was younger who used to go *mental* whenever they ate food with certain additives but parents used to keep an eye on what they ate and went to the trouble of figuring out what it was instead of taking the easy answer.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 08:18 pm (UTC)
aidian

now that is an interesting topic, right there - "the insane amount of chemicals most people consume these days". Yes, yes, yes. I've been thinking waaaay too much about that kind of thing lately. There's a lot of stuff that's just not good for kids, and stuff that's not good for -anybody-, I'm suspecting. Hormones, antibiotic-laced meat, preservatives, "natural and artificial flavors and colors", all that shit... Yeeargh. the natural flavor thing is what gets me. From what I remember, "natural flavors" can potentially be just as processed as artificial ones; it's just that they pull the initial ingredients from something 'real' rather than whipping the stuff up entirely from scratch. Ahh yes. a quick search produces this, according to the US FDA:

"The term "natural flavor" or "natural flavoring" means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional."

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:08 pm (UTC)
microgirl

Yep, that was me. Food colouring and caffeine. Still avoid caffeine mostly, and most of the nasty food colourings aren't in anything except the cheapest of the cheap things now.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 02:21 pm (UTC)
etherealfionna

Somebody on my flist (samae) has a kid who matches the Indigo aka Psycho aka ADD child description - she's just radically changed his diet and apparently it has worked wonders.

This is an entry that sums up a lot of what she has been doing and going through.

I don't consider myself particularly rational, but doesn't it seem much more likely that changing lifestyles has led to changing behaviour patterns rather than the upcoming age of aquarius leading to the changes?

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 10:57 am (UTC)
leftoftheedge

"Indigo child"? I missed that, but then I usually skip straight to the Nemi strip (although I did spot the article on Tokyo harem girls...). Hang on...

(rustling noises)

"...children across the globe have been born with superhuman and supernatural powers - and that they are the next step in the evolution of mankind."

Children as the next step along the evolutionary road? What a novel concept...

"Indigo children also have in-built lie detectors that means [sic] they won't accept 'because I say so' as a disciplinary technique."

Does any child? n.b. Backing it up with implicit violence doesn't count.

"For grown adults to give away their power to make decisions on life to a group of children is just ridiculous..."

First sensible thing in the whole article. This being good ol' Catholic Ireland, the whole thing will be blown out of all proportion, McQuaid & Dev will be out of their graves to denounce the whole thing as a vile pagan cult and demand that all comely maidens henceforth wear sackcloth when dancing at crossroads, special needs teachers will find themselves out of work and the kids will be rounded up and burnt as witches on a huge pyre in Phoenix park. Which according to a friend of mine who works with some very spuriously ADHD kids, may not be a bad thing...

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 11:36 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

"Indigo children also have in-built lie detectors that means [sic] they won't accept 'because I say so' as a disciplinary technique."

But no doubt Santa, the easter bunny, the economy and the idea of fairness are all okay. I hope you're right about the outrage, it'd be nice to have two groups of tools going at each other instead of annoying the world at large for a while. Maybe some sort of theological battle royale - you'd have to be careful in balancing the teams, psychic ability Vs divine blessings could be a sod to keep fair.


And Nemi - yeah, who'd have thought a free tabloid could have an entertaining comic?

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 02:42 pm (UTC)
followthebird: Going indigo.

So....in other worlds, eating junk food that makes you agitated and hyper can make you evolve into a super-being and save the world.
Wow! Give me some crisps and sweeties stat.
I’m turning indigo!

I think this would make a great comic…or a bad advert.

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 01:28 pm (UTC)
unblinkered

Heh, are you channelling my mother? She's a secondary school teacher and has pretty much the same opinion about (most) ADD kids - don't medicate them, just make them play outside and eat vegetables for a bit. Sheesh.

*sings* "This is the dawning of the age of aquarius, age of aqariuuuuuuuus....aquariuuuus, aqua-ha-riu-uuuus"

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 02:42 pm (UTC)
gwennie

I look purple in some lights..

Thu, Jan. 26th, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC)
wyvernfriend

Some of the books on it and a lot of other stuff by Doreen Virtue is just, heading well into hilarious. We have to treat these children as special because we don't understand them properly and they will teach us how to live properly and in a more spiritual and balanced way. The library has a few.