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Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005, 03:02 pm
Get off mah lawn!

Time for another episode of "Grumpy Old Wombat".

As I mentioned a while back, I've been thinking of painting a Warhammer Army for playing in tournaments and whatnot. Its been an age since I played and I'm probably quite out of touch with the whole scene and current rules and whatnot but it seems like something I'd like to do. However, I'm going to leave it until the new year and if the urge is still there I'll act on it then rather than impulse buy a hundred quids worth of gear that sits in a cupboard with my other ill thought out buys.
So it was with that in mind that I found myself in Games Workshop last week on a thursday evening, having a look at the avaiable books and trying to gauge which army I liked the look/feel of the most. The sign on the door of the shop said they were open until eight PM so I had plenty of time - or so I thought. I got there at about ten to six and started looking, nay perusing the merchandise and before long some of the conversations in the shop started filtering through.
Y'know, I'm not easily shocked - I like and don't like certain things to be sure, I'll even find some of them offensive but ten years of exposure to the internet theres little to shock me. For that matter I'll often find humour in others' misfortune, I sometimes wonder if human comedy didn't reach its pinnacle with home videos of a man being hit in the crotch by a stray golf ball. All that said though, I have to admit being shocked when I heard several of the staff and customers (actually, I was the only person in the shop not engaged in the conversation) laughing about how a friend of theirs was dating a blind girl and how he'd lost his temper with her and started punching her in the face screaming "bitch" and "whore". It wasn't until I did the whole glowering thing that they actually stopped and one of them muttered "maybe we'd better talk about something else". Shortly afterwards they closed the shop up and stopped letting people in so they could have their own private games club while the place was still supposed to be open. A classy bunch to be sure.

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:02 pm (UTC)

That's seriously messed up. I'm trying to picture the group of guys that would actually find that amusing- and I'm really having trouble doing so. I mean several people were amused by this? The hell is wrong with them? One or two people I could understand, to some extent. I mean, it makes it no less sick, but the reduced number at least adheres to the laws of probability.

Ugh. That's terrible. Makes me wish I could go all vigilante and find out the identity of this guy and take care of some business.

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:03 pm (UTC)

I'm a bad person for not closing my bold tag. Here: </bold>

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:12 pm (UTC)

Yes you are, I shall administer the punishment in person I guess.

I'm not entirely surprised at the number of people, or even that they were laughing - they're gamers and I don't have a shockingly high opinion of the level of taste possessed by that subculture (though I say this knowing full well that a great many of them are decent people, just that a higher proportion of gamers are that kind of jerk compared to the normal population) but I *was* surprised by the fact that they were having this conversation in my presence. Its one thing to be a jackass amongst like minded friends, quite another to do it in front of a stranger - a much older stranger who is unlikely to share your specific tastes.

Moreover, I was pretty surprised that the staff would be dumb enough to engage in this given how GW emphasises its whole "our staff are lovely helpful people" image. Now I'm left with the impression that they're borderline sadistic creeps. Not that this'll stop me shopping for models there or anything but it was a remarkably dumb thing to do.

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:30 pm (UTC)

Not that this'll stop me shopping for models there or anything but it was a remarkably dumb thing to do.

Yeah. It'd make me consider mentioning it to a manager, though.


As for your comment about gamers- maybe I'm just really fortunate, but nearly all the gamers I've run into possess decent amounts of compassion and empathy for their fellow humans. Maybe it's because we're all touchy-feely Americans over here... but if I'd run into someone like that, I'd force their face into an industrial fan.

That was meant to be ironic, of course. Point is, I just don't feel right with that sort of thing going on in the world and with people encouraging or enjoying it.

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:33 pm (UTC)

Thing is, you and I know mostly decent gamers because we don't hang around with morons by choice. I can't say I know anyone who'd come out with that kind of crap because I wouldn't want anything to do with them long enough to hear it come out their mouth. They exist though, and plenty of them

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 09:30 pm (UTC)

Bloody hell. Well, I'd start by reporting it to a manager - preferably in written format, as that tends to be seen as 'more serious' (i.e. it's not as easy to ignore as a phone call).
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Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)

If you could, that would be awesome because the whole royally p1ssed me off to be honest. I'm no prude and that was way over any line I'd draw.
Hell, it isn't like they even seemed to care who was there and I know more than a couple of people who would have been actually upset upon hearing that crap and they're often in there.

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)

Also, I can't find the contact info anywhere, lord knows I tried.

Fri, Oct. 14th, 2005 07:48 pm (UTC)

Seems a day for it... not something you ever want to hear at the next table when you bring your kids to McDonalds - or, well, ever, really: "So didja get off on that rape charge?"

Sun, Oct. 16th, 2005 08:34 pm (UTC)

oh my goodness that is awful, I am absolutely disgusted! as for GW it has a nasty reputation among many people I know, I can tell you that much. unfortunately that is not the first comment I have heard of that nature in a GW store all be it the most serious, but not by far. However I know for a fact that complaints were lodged in previous situations where it was a sack-able offense and the persons involved weren't even put on suspension while it was investigated! I would not be so sure of the outcome of a complaint made against GW. What i am sure of is I rarely step foot inside my local store, not because I don't play...I use to be quiet fond of seeing what was new in the black library. But because I don't like what I have heard in there on many occasions. Volunteers and community based organizations have to learn the child protection act and be trained in how to inter-react with minors, And yet GW staff are part of a large retail corporation that literally stamps all over the responsibility they have to their customers many of whom are minors. If my child/sibling/nephew was exposed to that kind of language and appallingly bad example. I would be furious and needless to say take them out of that environment immediately. No wonder I don't like venturing in there myself...