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Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 10:29 am (UTC)
caturah

Gross

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 10:43 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I mean its a fucking surgical procedure on the EYE! Maybe I'm turning into my dad or something but getting the tongue or skin pierced is one thing - even if something goes terribly horribly wrong you can chop the offending lump off and live a perfectly full life but you can't do that with an eyeball.

Well, you can I suppose, many pirates led full lives.

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 10:49 am (UTC)
caturah

Well eyes can be replaced these days... but that might be after it turns into a fetid lump of tissue in your skull...

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 10:56 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I can picture the scene -

Doctor "Good morning gentlemen, we're just reviewing our list of people who need eyeballs replaced. Can you explain how you lost your eye in the first place so we can work out which one of you should get a replacement? P.S. I am a doctor."

Patient #1 "Well doctor, I lost my eye in a horrible...um explosion when I was on peacekeeping duties in the former yugoslavia. See I rescued this puppy, but it turned out to have a grenade inside. I shan't go into details but suffice it to say that when I picked the puppy up the pin was pulled and it went off."

Doctor "I see, and you patient #2?... I have no bedside manner and cannot be bothered even making up names for you people"

Patient #2 "Well, I got this thing done in a piercing place where they slit open your eye and slide some metal in under the membrane"

Doctor "I see, well you both make compelling cases but ultimately, patient #2 - we're taking your other eye and giving it to patient #1. You will spend the recovery time in our special 'room O' wasps'"

So yeah, you can get an eye replaced, but not if you explain how you lost the damned thing :)

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 11:04 am (UTC)
caturah

Much as I'd love to belive that version of future events... there's just too many rich idiots in the world...

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 12:06 pm (UTC)
evilrobotshane

Personally I'm a big believer in freedom of choice... just because it's icky or potentially mildly dangerous is no reason to come down hard and ban it. Hell, if they banned stuff that has no constructive value and is liable to end you up in hospital, your smoking days would be long over, and I'd be bed-boarding and bars-climbing in my cell. Give people enough rope to hang 'emselves with, I say - we're not kids and without freedom of choice we're essentially dead.

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 01:48 pm (UTC)
mr_wombat

Fair point, though I should point out that it is their EYEBALL!

My objection is based on how quickly such a procedure is being introduced into the mainstream. Piercings of one type or another have been around for ages, but this is an entirely new one and I'm dubious as to how many years in "I won't fuck you up" medical college you'll need before you're allowed to cut someone's eye and slide some metal in. We've all heard horror stories about fuckwit piercers and tattoo parlours ruining someone with a bodge job, cutting the membrane on the eyeball opens up whole new vistas of potential stupidity.
Let people get it done if they want, but by qualified surgeons.

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 01:02 pm (UTC)
washedoutvampir

Errrr... Well, if that's what they want to do to themselves. Personally I'll stick with tattoos though thanks.

Tue, Mar. 8th, 2005 01:49 pm (UTC)
mr_wombat

See above :)

I'm inclined to subscribe to the "people need protecting from themselves sometimes" theory. Let them go and do it if they want but don't let any hairy inebriate with a scalpel have a go.