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Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004, 11:42 am
UW again

We've set September as our release month for the game, Ian disappears off to the far end of the country at that point so we figure that it's as good a time as any to aim for. Even though I've been off for the last week though I've gotten nothing done with it unfortunately - at various points either the pain or the painkillers had me in a mental state that didn't leave me inclined to do much. I DID however watch a bunch of movies in a vain attempt to get me in the mood.

The Sin Eater - Heath Ledger stars as a priest from an obscure order who are charged with dealing with spooks and ghouls. You can be fairly assured that I'll nick some material from that one.

The house of 1000 corpses - might be scary or weird if you had never seen a horror movie in your life before. The most entertaining part of the movie was guessing which characters were going to end up as Tod McFarlane collectible figures. Trite, dull predictable shite.

O.N.E One Nation Earth - Watched the first half hour. The back of the box made me think it was going to be some sort of "Enemy of the State" type conspiracy thing that would be a good watch to get me in the mood for writing the company stuff. Unfortunately it turned out to be a flick about (guessing from the first half hour) how Jesus is a great guy. Also starring Mr T, I shit you not.

The Stand - still good until the last twenty minutes. Fuck you Stephen King you fucking hack.

Underworld - I was hoping for some plot but I fell asleep for about half an hour in the middle of the movie and from what I could see, missed none of the plot. Certainly nothing that mattered anyway. Why the hell White Wolf wanted to claim that it ripped them off is beyond me, if I were them I'd have distanced myself from this steaming turd as far and as fast as possible.

Jeepers Creepers 2 - God knows I was desperate by this stage. It had a few good set pieces but the whole film was rendered creepier by virtue of the director/producer/whatever supposedly being a convicted paedophile. Maybe I was reading too much into it but a movie about an unstoppable monster arbitrarially[1] picking and choosing several teenagers out of a class trapped on a broken bus in the middle of nowhere seemed a bit iffy to me. Oh, and man alive did the guys pee a lot.

So yeah, loads of movies, bugger all inspiration.

[1] I almost certainly spelled that wrong, I'll look it up later.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 04:46 am (UTC)
formulaic666

You chose some bad movies there man, except the Stand, which is ace (until the last 20 mins) King Rules! The reason his movies turn out to be turds in the end so often is that he writes unfilmable endings. I mean, how do you realistically protray the hand of God coming down from the sky like that. Especially in the early 90's! Although the rounding up of story afterwards also transfered badly, the book has it as much more of a frustration at the way that the Free Zone is turning into the sort of place that Flagg would run.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 04:59 am (UTC)
bastun_ie

Agreed. Very few of King's horror stories have transferred well to film. Those that have, like Carrie & the Shining have "mundane" endings, for want of a better term.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:03 am (UTC)
formulaic666

Absolutely. His best transfers have always been those that deal with non magical/horror themes, such as shawshank, stand by me etc. However, I did think that Dreamcatcher did a good enough job, and this may be because it, along with Misery and Shining, have had loads of money thrown at them, and bloody good teams behind them.

Also, the best ones are the ones King gets no real involvelment in.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:09 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

Ah yeah, Dreamcatcher, that was another one I saw. Great movie but a complete deus ex machina at the end and it felt like the whole thing was a delivery system for a crappy "twist" at the end. I guess that's my problem with King, whenever the ending is going to be non-mundane he always finds a way to take all the achievement from the human characters. Everything the characters endure is rendered irrelevant because hey, when your back is against the wall you can count on God, disguised aliens or a convenient janitor to step in out of nowhere and save the day entirely while you sit it out. Heck, you needn't even have been there for all the difference you made.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:12 am (UTC)
formulaic666

'tis a fair point. I thought it was a bit silly that all they did in the Stand was get Flagg outside, and let God do the rest. COuldn't god have just waited for him to go and get some groceries?

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:05 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I think it was the "thumbs up" bit that just pissed me off something rotten :) The rest of the film is great - it's a really well done bit of post apocalypse storytelling but the ending just felt really lazy, it let the whole thing down after several hours of solid plot and characterisation.
It's like having an excellent meal in a resteraunt and having the waiter give you the bill and some complimentary shitmints.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:10 am (UTC)
formulaic666

That is a particularly disapointing moment, up there in King terms with when the giant spider turns up in IT.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:18 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I can't remember much about IT at the moment, its been ages since I saw it unfortunately but I don't remember being pissed at the ending.
To be honest though, the ending to Dreamcatcher made me angry - I mean at least for the Stand the poor bastards had to get to Vegas to execute their plan and God just helped finish it off (of course, being God he could have just godded up a nuke himself but I guess there was some christian symbolism King wanted to get across) but Dreamcatcher? what the FUCK?! it was like they told him at the last minute that the movie was being shortened by 20 minutes and would he ever mind cutting the ending to ribbons?

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:23 am (UTC)
formulaic666

That is probably the truth. I think a lot of it that King's endings make sense on paper, because they are so much to do with individual interpretation, but on film you can't do that, so they fudge it. I think King is sometimes very lazy in his endings, which makes his scriptwriters lazy when they adapt it. It is certainly a common theme, shit endings. It's a shame because I love King's other abilities, his natural talent for storytelling and characterisation, and thinking up wonderful twisting stories, all those things which I think he does as well as most others can. But he often lets himself down. Shame.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:28 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

He's one of those people whose movies you either love or hate judging from the reviews. I like a lot of his stuff because he doesn't feel the need to explain absolutely everything to me and allows the viewer to make up some of the story for themselves. I guess if you prefer having 100% of an airtight story told to you then you'd dislike him, and also life in general for leaving bits you can't understand.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 06:19 am (UTC)
eng_monkey

I'll say it again:
Shadow Builder - from what I gather, you could get some inspiration from this one.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 06:28 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I've not seen that around, I guess it might be time for a trip to Lazer (especially since I've seen anything I want to see released in the last six months in chartbusters) The half hour walk is the only thing putting me off :)

Fri, Jul. 23rd, 2004 07:46 am (UTC)
eng_monkey

It'll be worth it - if just for the opening scene! Which I thought was deadly!
However, I was possibly 17 at the time, which means most things were deadly!

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 06:23 am (UTC)
coliwobbly

I'm thinking it is maybe my age, but I thought Carrie was a great film and I still do. I snuck in to see it at the cinema when it was released and really loved it.

Perhaps if I had grown up when films of that sort had more about them, it'd be different. Certainly if Carrie had been made in the last 10 years it'd be a very different film.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 06:30 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

True, it does rather seem like hollywood hasn't so much given up as much as it's making a concerted effort to take all the edge out of movies.

Thu, Jul. 22nd, 2004 08:05 pm (UTC)
awakedreamer

I saw myself the sin eater yesterday, and found it entertaining, and although I think you could see the ending coming all along, the main character didn't which I found very disappointing.

Glad to hear UW has a release date. I'll start saving up Euros from now on, so that way I won't have any excuses for not buying it when it's released ;).

Fri, Jul. 23rd, 2004 01:22 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

Yeah, for a supposed investigator he seemed a little blinkered. I was thinking about the september thing last night. I don't know that it'll be 100% as such, but there'll at least be something you can read and play until we polish it off. Definitely it should be completly finished by the end of the year.