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Fri, May. 7th, 2004, 12:29 pm
Be vewwy vewwy quiet, we're hunting houses.

The sheer gall of some landlords is quickly becoming astonishing to me. Over the past two evenings, myself and cartographer have been looking for a new place to stay that's reasonably close to town. So far we've seen three places.

1) A place on Love Lane which was amazingly close to work for me but had an unfortunate problem in that neither of us could walk through the place without having to move sideways, everything was THAT narrow. Other black marks against it were that the "patio and garden area" was a tiny, filthy couple of tiles that once again could not be maneuvered around in any manner other than crablike. Also, the third bedroom (it's a three room place) was so tiny that only a person who owned nothing more than a duvet, a pair of socks, pants and a tee shirt could actually live there and keep their stuff.

2) Clonskeagh, on the main road right across from the mosque. Leaving aside the diabolical directions we were given the place wasn't actually too bad but the third room was once again minute and the place was right up on a busy, noisy road.

3) Clonskeagh again, in a housing estate. It was nice and well lit with a little conservatory around the back and a garden that seemed to be rabbit safe on first glance. The third room wasn't entirely tiny but pretty small. Unfortunately we had to conclude that this and the second place were shite on the basis of how long it took to get into town, never mind the long walk I'd have to get into work after arriving in town.

I've concluded that landlords, by and large are having a fucking laugh with this three bedroom thing. None of the places had a single room that was remotely big enough to let a person be comfortable in them but yet they feel that it justifies raising the price of the rent by 500 quid easily, despite the fact that no one could realistically expect someone to pay a third of the rent for such a tiny tiny room. I also remember a time when the distance from town and the complete lack of amenities would mean a lower rent - it's a fucking shame that landlords don't seem to recall this.

We also concluded that Clonskeagh could co fuck itself.
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Fri, May. 7th, 2004 05:57 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

For the money these fuckers are looking for I'd really expect a fucking personal chauffeur.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 11:18 am (UTC)
grutok

Clonskeagh should really be spelt ClonSKI as the mountains are in your bloody back garden, how much further from town do you want?

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 11:55 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

Yeah, that detail was noted, though I had far better reasons not to like the places.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 05:46 am (UTC)
natural20

Er, how long did it take you to walk into town? I mean, there's the 11 and the 48A at either end of Bird Avenue and Nitelinks along both lines as well. I've walked into town in under an hour etc. etc.

Of course that's happily leaving aside whether you'd be wanted in the area or not. cartographer yes, but you I'm not so sure about...

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 05:54 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

I dunnow, maybe we're being fussy or something. I think the major problem is the size of the places compared to the rent compared to the number of people who would have to live there to make the rent reasonable compared to the number who can reasonably live there.

Or to put it another way, it's not been explicitly stated but I get the distinct impression that they're being set up as a place for four people.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 05:57 am (UTC)
natural20

Naw, you're probably right. I don't know what the rents are like around here but I suspect I'm going to find out very soon, for a short period at least. I think the place probably are setup to take four people, especially when those four people may well be students who have just about enough money to manage it.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 06:01 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

That's definitely the vibe I got from most of the places. There's usually a double room (and at least once place had two singles in that room) a single room and a box room. So presumably you're looking at a couple or two people sharing, one person with their own room and one person desperate enough to sleep in a room designed to cause claustraphobia.

The average rent for what they laughingly refer to as a luxury three bedroom house is currently about 1500 per month, of course the poor sod in the box room couldn't really be expected to pay a full 1/3 share.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 06:26 am (UTC)
cartographer

The 11 took 31 minutes to get to town at eight in the evening. Rush hour must be horrible.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 06:14 am (UTC)
trjh

I seem to have blotted a lot of my Dublin (rental) house-hunting adventures out of my head. Even some of the purchase hunting ones. However, in my (admittedly measly) two years of being in a 3-person household, I *always* found that the houses match what you've already described -- a double room, a single room, and a box room. Being the only guy, for some reason I always got the box room. And paid 1/3 the rent. Hm. (Well, ok, I did get to use the attic space in the last place as my 'study', though I had to buy a space heater to make it work).

Actually, the last place we were in had a double room and two box-sized rooms where a second double room used to be. I think you can at least partially blame the Victorian & Georgian architects.

btw, the northside does have reasonable places to live that are within walking distance -- I lived in nice places in Drumcondra & Glasnevin. They also seemed to be at something of a discount over places on the southside.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 06:16 am (UTC)
trjh

Come to think of it, I recall a painful four-month search for a decent three-bedroom place to live somewhere between Palo Alto and Sunnyvale in Silicon Valley. Perhaps housing in general just isn't geared for three-bedroom places.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 06:25 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

Come to think of it, two bedroom places seem geared with four people in mind and one bedroom places are all geared at either a couple or one person with more money than sense.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 08:18 am (UTC)
unblinkered

I'm currrently proving that theory by flat-hunting in Letterkenny - all the flats are either icky bedsits (with previous tenants buried under the floorboards, going by the smell) or swanky luxury appartments aimed at the 2 1/2 single doctors up at the hostel. And I'm working for the state, whcih'll give you a rough idea of the size of my paycheck.....

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 09:02 am (UTC)
mr_wombat

Heck, I'm on a pretty good wage now (though in retrospect I can't help but think that if I hadn't been getting the shaft for so long from where I work that I might have been able to afford a place of my own back when they were... well.. affordable) and most of the places I've seen involve rents I'm not comfortable with and rooms I couldn't be comfortable in. From what I can see in other towns and cities the fact that it isn't dublin isn't making any real difference, you'll pay a bloody extortionate amount regardless.

Fri, May. 7th, 2004 11:20 am (UTC)
wyvernfriend

And my mother wonders why I don't move...